Hmm, souls ... been a while since I've theorized about those.

The theory I came up with several years ago involved the standard physical, mental, energetic and soul aspect model of life. I won't explain the first three here and skip straight to the last one.

Unlike most I consider the soul to be differentiated on at least two more levels. One level of our souls is what I call the "spark" and what most people probably consider our whole soul. It's that thing that gives us consciousness, contains our personality and makes us dream, desire, hope, contemplate life/death/existence in ways that are not driven by pure biological self-sustainability. It's what makes us different from animals and lower forms of biological life. It is, as Lopting so simply put it, our mental software, the programmed environment of our being in this body. And I also believe it's what connects us to other realms of existence.

Many otherkin consider that soul I just described to possess non-human traits, I don't. I consider that "spark" completely in line with this life. It starts tiny, a very rudimentary program and with each bit of experience we gain in this life our "spark" grows, the programming is updated and constantly updates until we die.

It is the moment we die that our "spark" with all the information it stored in it's lifetime returns to the true "soul" to feed it with new experiences. That "soul" is an immensely complex amorphous, gender and raceless collection of experiences and connections forming a realm of existence on itself. There is no clear distinction of individual beings, individual souls since everything is connected and constantly moving, mixing, separating, growing and shrinking.

It's the beginning, the end and the meaning of life.

Now to bring reincarnation and otherkin into the theory we have to go back to the "sparks". That big "soul realm of existence" constantly sends "sparks" out into other/lesser realms of existence, which occupy bodies and thus create life. Those "sparks" are meant to gather new experiences to bring back to the whole and even though they remain connected, the connection is inactive. It's just a thread to ensure the "sparks" find their way back as soon as they're separated from life.

Otherkin and other spiritual entrepreneurs manage to occasionally activate that link between their "spark" and the "soul realm", which means information slips through that they're not supposed to have. Due to the nature of our software/"sparks" this information is practically useless most of the time. We're not equipped to grasp it and even if we could grasp the full extent of the information, it would only be a tiny puzzle piece of a multi-gazillion pieced puzzle of information. Thus we end up filling in the blanks and decoding the scrambled leakage of experiences, which eventually form otherkin past lives, spiritual visions, philosophical insights, psychic experiences and all sorts of enlightenment-related phenomena.

That's it for my theory today ... and be warned, this theory has also been created by decoding incomprehensibly complex signal leakages with my own unsupported, hugely inadequate software programs.

Congratulations for making it to the end, by the way.

this "true soul" you speak of is the soul of the universe/everyone or for each spark/group of sparks?

it's a little confusing...and do you mean to say that if each soul can have multiple sparks, there are other versions of me running around?..in a manner of speaking...please clarify its late and i dont want to think too deeply

The bigger soul version doesn't easily distinguish between individuals. It's not as black and white. While I'm sure there are distinctions and separations inside the whole, there are also mixups and mergings.

It is the soul of everyone, separated or united by experiences. Sorry but I can't make my ideas any clearer than that without going against them.

Multiple sparks can exist simultaneously but they won't be you, not the you from this life. They can originate from the same or a nearby patch of "true soul" and thus be linked to you since they share a lot of the same experiences.

well personally i'm not averse to the idea that there is a universal soul but i am averse to the idea that we have to merge with it when we die...its my aversion to my parents religion...i choose not to merge with God..but i'm rambling and my preferences are prolly a bit different from what your meaning is...i dont like the idea that we "have" to merge back into some universal force or god after

I can understand that because it means we're no longer ourselves when we die.

I don't really like the idea either but it still makes sense to me. If I would stay myself even after I died ... I don't see why I would let myself be separated from the ones I've learned to love in life. As otherkin I would have never come here on this rock, far away from everything that makes me truly alive. However if I would no longer exist as me, then there is no reason to cling to a single life. All that matters then are new experiences.

i think each individual soul has an overall purpose for being here, which ties with what happens to them after death

Does this mean you think that animals don't have souls or that any other life form doesn't have a soul?

I'm not being accusatory or anything, I was just wondering.

i think he means more that we have higher cognitive capabilities and can self reflect....not sure though, its just what i gather from re-reading that part

I'm actually still questioning myself on that part.

So at the end of one's life as humans we can look back on our life and reflect on both the good and bad experiences that we've had and leave this world in peace, don't know if thats right or not its just what I was thinking.

My personal belief is that a soul is energy. The energy that will eventually make up a soul has always existed, but a soul is energy in a specific configuration, so a soul doesn't become a soul until it is given form-destined for a vessel of somekind. Patterned or woven (for lack of better words) into a soul that fits with X type of body. Of course, energy beings are essentially a different variety of energy...they aren't made up of the same "stuff" that makes up the souls of energy beings, but a sentient form of energy that does not require a physical form at all (which is a whole other concept to go into a whole other theory in a whole other thread). It seems to me that we energy beings are not *entirely* different in substance from the soul of a physical being, but many of our energies are much much older than those of physical beings, so perhaps the energy at the time was simply different. I don't think our energies are entirely different, but different in some key aspect, be it the pattern, or a different signature of energy.

Once incarnated, a soul may become "aware" much like otherkin awakenings, if so it stays whole...one energy. Otherwise, when a person dies it returns to the cosmic energy to be scooped out to new physical forms as they come along and are patterned. However, the new soul, while patterned into X type, would also retain that fragment of the last soul(s) that are in it. Thus, a soul that is not aware can be broken up and pieces of it can end up in multiple bodies, which is why people sometimes remember the same past life as the same being. However, aware souls remain intact which is why you come up with people who have had one or a few vivid past existances. So aware souls basically stay the same, while unaware souls go on to be broken up and mixed with whatever other soul fragments are in the cosmic energy stew.

Yeah...I haven't spent a whole lot of time refining this little theory, so be gentle

That theory actually doesn't sound so different from mine when you read between the lines.

A question though ... energy beings do they also have a soul just like we have here now somewhere inside their energetic 'body' or does their energetic state actually replace the need for a soul?

If you ask me, which you just did , our energetic "body" for lack of a better word replaces the need for a soul and acts as a soul of sorts when incarnate...as opposed to physical beings who require a soul to fully function.

I'm sure there are energetic beings out there who disagree with me, however.

Hmm, I tend to disagree on that one as an energetic being ... because I believe even humans or whatever else are all energetic beings and all have an energetic body. Be it a hardly developed, unaware one.

To me there is an order of things, levels of existence: physical, mental, energetic, soul. At least those are the ones I know of but I'm certain there are more levels of existence. Depending on which level you exist(ed) you possess a primary body of that level and secondary bodies of all of the higher levels.

This present existence here is the of the lowest level, the physical which means I believe everything that lives here has a physical body, the main body which everyone is familiar with, a mental one which we are all familiar with as well for the most part (minus the subconscious), then an energetic body which most of us are completely unaware of save for a few 'enlightened' individuals and the soul body which I don't even understand much of myself. Then probably some more levels I totaly can't grasp anymore.

So basically, following that model of existence to me all energetic beings also require a soul, though I admit it's not always easy to distinguish between the energy and the soul and I'm actually not 100% certain that there is a difference.

Hmm, so does this mean that there's excuse the phrasing An all spark? Like Everyone's little individual life sparks all accumulate into one mass spark, but each person follows the same pattern of previous individual sparks? Or is it, say, I'd be made up of many sparks, and then I go back to a particular spark after this is over, but it'd be like my own little universal spark and not intertwining with others.

Then answering that, it makes me think of how individuals meet from past lives and share memories, so would it mean their sparks somehow ran into each other? Sorry if doesn't make sense. XD

That theory does tend to add up, esp for those of us who do know we've lived past lives. However it begs the question, where would the spark be if all go back to a collective spark? is it on one soul plane and we're spread to many others and how would one find their way back to the collective spark?

I'd always been of the mind really, that since a lot of things in our world as we live it now are deemed impossible, such as being able to become something else entirely in another life, that perhaps we have a collective energy from each plane. Similar in theory, such as the sparks, but also of the mind that we had a life on a different plane and it just sorta somehow got to be a part of this one. I mean some have birth, life and death. So it'd make sense that in other realms where more is possible I say could become a werecat. Human form and tiger, with battles being waged all around. Just for some reason compiled into the exact opposite.

Which brings another question to mind, why do you think, that as many otherkin find, their past lives versus this lives selves are usually polar opposites? I mean why would it be, that out of all souls to be regenerated into that a warrior soul would choose a peace loving creature that refuses to fight and all that. We can say it's fate, but is it possible to maybe trace a pattern?

That's my tired two cent for the night