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Treelow
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:21 pm |
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Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:28 pm Posts: 6
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Nightwolf, I've heard from plenty of therians that you can be more than one animal, they just say that you need make sure you soul search and think before you can say that you are more than one animal. If they are saying you're not three, well then maybe that's their personal belief, but all in all, only you can know, so they shouldn't have a say, now should they? 
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Zan
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:14 pm |
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| Not-So-Giant Orange |
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Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:15 am Posts: 443
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Nightwolf wrote: Most will try to convince you that you can't be more than one and you must choose. Most people are ignorant. You are what you are and there really is nobody else who's got anything to say in that. There are no rules, regulations or even limitations of any kind. It's all about what you feel inside and how you can express and understand that feeling the best.
_________________ "I think a man does what he can, until his destiny is revealed."
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Arctic
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:24 pm |
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Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:48 pm Posts: 234 Location: Canada
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Well said Zan, I'm both a wolf and a jaguar and I wouldn't change who and what I am. If you feel you're four different animals then fine be happy to be who and what you are, don't worry about what other people think.
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Nightwolf
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:48 am |
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Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:04 am Posts: 902 Location: Puyallup, Washington
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*Nods* Aye, and that's what I've told everyone. Hence the whole it's been a while since I had to say I am a tiger, wolf, panther and human. I meant this was more when I first awakened a few years ago. Not to mention I used my question and destroy technique. Generally if someone wants to tell me that something I believe isn't true, they have to answer all my questions to my satisfaction. Like I remember one guy telling me I had to choose and I was like well if I had to choose, how do I know which one I'm not? What about the memories? Why do I have the instincts? Are you a therian to know the difference? How do I know I'm not my totems? Eventually he was like I don't know, you just can't. I'm like your answers aren't good enough for me to listen to. I am what I am, because it was chosen. I really didn't have to research what I was, I just was and that's good enough for me  Though it's nice to see that so many have their heads on straight in here ^_^
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Black_Rose
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:45 am |
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| Giant Orange |
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Joined: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:26 am Posts: 1047 Location: London
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I don't the see problem in being more than one thing at once
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Seraphyna
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:26 pm |
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Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:14 pm Posts: 77 Location: NY
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I only see a problem with it when someone's claiming to be over 3 things, unless they're simply counting past lives as kintypes (which I think is kinda silly since past life =/= kintype by necessity). I mean, once someone's claiming over 3 types, they're either deluding themselves, missing something, wanting to be special, or a troll.
Just my $.02 from past experience.
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Black_Rose
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:51 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:26 am Posts: 1047 Location: London
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You probably wouldn't be able to remember that many past lives I don't think
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Zan
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:53 am |
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| Not-So-Giant Orange |
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Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:15 am Posts: 443
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If existence is infinite and has no beginning (or even if the beginning of existence was a very, very long time ago if you're more comfortable believing that) and if most of us (our souls) have been around since the beginning in one form/mix or another. Then I could say you would be missing something if you only remember being less than a handful of different beings.
If our personalities are so complex and unique that even we cannot fully comprehend them ourselves throughout an entire lifetime. Then I could say you're deluding yourself by narrowing it down to only a few kin types.
I'm not accusing anyone of those two here ... just showing the other side of the medal, which happens to lean in closer to my personal opinion. However I can understand where you come from Sera. Especially among newly awakened kin, claiming to be many things can be a sign of just wanting to be special or trolling. However to quote the Matrix (and a great thinker of the past):
"Hume teaches us that no matter how many times you drop a stone and it falls to the floor, you never know what'll happen the next time you drop it. It might fall to the floor, but then again it might float to the ceiling. Past experience never proves the future."
_________________ "I think a man does what he can, until his destiny is revealed."
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Seraphyna
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:45 pm |
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Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:14 pm Posts: 77 Location: NY
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The problem with saying we should/could all remember 5+ past lives is that memory is simply not that good lol. I mean, I can't remember what I had for breakfast a week ago, and my past life memories are disorganized snippets. The mind can often not remember things from our early lives and current memories are usually imperfect (as can be seen from interviewing multiple people who witness the same event)...so to say we could remember X number of memories for one is probably off...and anyone who claims to have crazy detailed memories of one life, forget more than one, is probably deluding themself...because the brain is simply not that good at remembering generality, forget detail (and if generality isn't a word, it is now).
And then there are those cases like mine, where an individual isn't a physical being in essence, but an energetic one and has thus had a limited number of, or no, physical incarnations.
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Zan
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:14 am |
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| Not-So-Giant Orange |
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Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:15 am Posts: 443
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Good points. I can't claim to have detailed memories of any life. Instead they are indeed disorganized snippets, like you mentioned. And for a long time of my kin awakening years I tried like hell making those snippets coherent. Eventually I gave that quest up though.
I don't think that sounds unfamiliar to a lot of kin. Many of us have a hard time connecting the memories and for me that often has one main reason: We want to connect them all to a single past life. We get memories of pointy ears, wings, tails, claws, fur and what not. Then we start jumbling it all together. So you get a number of possible explanations:
- hybrid kin: winged elves, humanoid dragons, etc. - ignoring of certain snippets of information because they just don't fit in a clean image. - shifters: those who can shift between multiple beings. - multiple past lives: Different beings in different lives. - ...
Now I'm not claiming any one of the above is more accurate than the others, I don't know. All I know is that I've personally decided on the last option. I've already given most of my reasons for that decision in my previous post here.
I don't think that memories are influenced by time so much. For something that has been around for what probably is an eternity, time has a completely different meaning. I also don't have any evidence to believe that only the most recent lives are easy to remember, I actually don't have any chronological hints at all.
So basically I agree with you if we're talking about detailed memories, I'm weary of those who claim to remember even a single life in full detail (including this one). However on the topic of just memories, the hazy, incoherent shards they normally are, I believe it's perfectly possible to have many of them, if not each belong to a different incarnation. That might just be me though.
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Seraphyna
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:54 pm |
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Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:14 pm Posts: 77 Location: NY
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It's possible...but since they're incoherent shards it's hard to say if they come from multiple lives, if they're memories of you or someone else, etc.
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Zan
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:00 am |
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| Not-So-Giant Orange |
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Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:15 am Posts: 443
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Right, that's another possibility I forgot to mention ... shared memories. Then we first have to answer the question of how connected are we all on a non-physical level. So many questions with no clear answers. Guess it keeps the explorations exciting huh. 
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Seraphyna
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:48 pm |
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Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:14 pm Posts: 77 Location: NY
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Exciting...or a giant pain in the rear end 
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Arctic
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:21 pm |
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| Orange Tree |
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:48 pm Posts: 234 Location: Canada
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Yeah Definitly. 
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Black_Rose
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Post subject: Re: your kin(ness) Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:44 am |
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Joined: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:26 am Posts: 1047 Location: London
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hehe Well I agree with the point about isolated pieces of memory and it being imperfect because that is what I am experiencing now. I think it would be very hard to remember everything about a past life but about remembering multiple lives well i think its obviously possible to have been many different things in the past but being in this human body places limitations in terms of memory capacity...plus if we did remember all of them or at least more, we'd get really confused 
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